The Case Against Vegan Gains

It’s hard enough to be a vegan by itself, trying to find other people to relate with in Veganism that are not batshit insane is really hard. Let alone if you are trying to fill a niche within Veganism.

Vegan Gains is a Youtuber who is supposed to fill the niche of the Vegan Bodybuilder, and he has a good following. The thing is, he sucks at it. He lies and cherry picks studies to promote his already held beliefs. He claimed that women only use children to trap men. He even went as far as to use peoples deaths to promote Veganism.

Just a few weeks ago his grandfather passed away of a heart attack while he recorded it. He used the death of his grandfather to say that ‘he would not have died if he was vegan’. He then said that Furious Pete, another YouTuber, got Testicular Cancer because of his meat-based diet. He also thinks that people need to be forced to become vegan.

And that is not even the best part, Vegan Gains then just a little bit ago sent a death threat to another YouTuber, Mr Repzion, because he was called a Sociopath. He held up a knife and claimed that he wanted to slit Mr Repzion’s throat with it.

Just know that he did all this, and he hasn’t even been around for a full year on YouTube yet.

He’s an awful vegan, and most other vegans hate him. In fact, despite having almost 90,000 subscribers, his videos all look like this:

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That’s not to say that he does not have a devout fanbase, just look at the ratings and comments of any video that calls him out for his stupidity. In fact, here is a video by a fellow vegan who called him out and was later blasted for it by his fanbase:

As a lacto-vegetarian who supports Veganism, I am fine with Vegans who talk about morality or health-based reasons to become vegan in a more logical way. What I don’t like is when people like Vegan Gains exploits Veganism to push his sociopathic idiocy. What he is doing not only makes veganism look bad, but it also makes BodyBuilding look bad, and you have to try VERY hard to make the Body Building community look even more like douchebags.

Very few people like him, except for his small fanbase, which to me is like the fanbase of the people who are Pro-Anita Sarkeesian, most people who follow her are mocking her idiocy.

But yeah, Vegan Gains is a fuckunt, and needs to really grow up if he plans on being taken seriously as anything, let alone a vegan.

Vegetarianism And Being In Poverty

I did once try to be vegetarian, but that was in high school, and I did not have the funds to property eat vegenetarian full time, so I stopped. I did not try again until just recently, which is when I had more funds to be able to afford such things.

I grew up in poverty, so for me and my family, the idea of not buying meat, or tossing out meat we received from the food bank, or food donations, or refusing a free meal at a church or whatnot because it contained animal products, was not a viable choice that we could have made. Growing up we constantly went to food banks and churches for a significant portion of our food, and even then my family of 9 went without eating, sometimes for more than a day.

vegetarian markSo it might be easy to state that you can get vegetarian options in fast food, or buy vegetarian in grocery stores, but to be honest, when you are living paycheck to paycheck and are still going without at times, eating vegetarian is the least of your worries. When you are trying to make sure your rent is paid so you are not kicked to the curb, what you buy is not as important as simply buying. Although I think this is different when you get several hundred dollars in food stamps a month, but for the millions of people who can’t get on foodstamps, telling them that “they can just eat rice and beans” or “they can eat bean burritos, french fries, and veggie burgers” is just cruel and quite frankly a disgusting way to act.

You may think that going vegetarian is so much less expensive as well, but depending on what you buy, it may be way more expensive. And this does not include vitamin/mineral deficiencies, such as a lack of Iron and B-12 because people in poverty either can’t afford supplements, or are not in the right state of mind to plan out meals. especially single parents working a harsh job, or even 2 jobs.

I am 23 right now and can’t even afford to move out, although I am going to move in with my BF in September. I work almost 40 hours a week, getting almost 900-1000 dollars a month, and work my butt off. I have issues with cooking food after work because i am just too tired. Most of the food I eat during work days are from the restaurant I work at. Thankfully they HAVE vegetarian options, but even then, even with spending like, 6$ a day on food when I am out, I am privileged to be able to do this diet at all without trying to do it alongside working two jobs.

I like vegetarianism, but instead of the Vegan community trying to berate people who don’t because of financial reasons, how about the chip in to stop poverty? Because it is stopping poverty that will help more people become vegan.